itself that can avoid it. the administration is running the clock and hoping for another scandal to get it out of the headlines. i hate special prosecutors, but this is a case where you have to do it. this gets done and soup to nuts and that's what we find out what happened. as for visiting the white house 150 times, you don't go unless there is a specific reason, a political reason. >> while the irs was busy targeting these 200 conservative groups, other groups, liberal groups were getting green lighted right into the system and many had very questionable political deals. >> this is what is interesting. factually correct, many more conservative groups targeted than liberal groups. but guess what. as you do the research into these problems with the applications, very hard to find progressive groups who were being dishonest. >> not true. i will -- not true, i will give you the name of one we have investigated very carefully, american sustain built project. have you heard of that group?